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Suggestions

Posted by Darth Snoopy on Friday, January 16, 2009

Howdy Pat, Just an idea, but on the main forum page it would be nice to see who the last poster was, as well as when the last post was made. For instance, if Hicks posts something, I'll know that it's not worth my time to go into the link. however, if Jakester posts something, I know that it might be witty and insightful, and have a look. Good to "see" you and the site up again, BTW. Looks great so far.

Patrick@CA
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Posted: 10 years 18 weeks ago

That's already on the main page. Look under the HypeLine box on the righthand side and you will see the 4 most recent comments in the forums/news articles/database pages.

Good to see you back Snoops!

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The Swollen Goi...
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Posted: 10 years 17 weeks ago

I'm going to pretend the title of this thread is "Suggestions," and I'm going to suggest a television forum. It seems odd to have a TV news tab and no TV forum.

Patrick@CA
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Posted: 10 years 17 weeks ago

That suggestion makes a lot of sense to me and so: http://coronacomingattractions.com/forums/entertainment/television.

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The Swollen Goi...
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Posted: 10 years 17 weeks ago

Hey, cool!

I thought I might get it started with a thread of some sort, but I'm not sure I have the power to create topics. I don't see any sort of button to click. Is it stashed in one of the hidden forums?

___________

Edit:

Never mind. Apparently, my roommate's cat logged me out when I wasn't looking.

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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

I am also going to imagine that this thread is my personal suggestion box and repost the contents of a thread I posted a few hours ago in the Lounge:

"Back in the old days, my favorite loitering holes were the genre forums (beside the Lounge.) I think it's really important to have forums where we can talk about the films that not everyone else cares about (ie. Art films, Animation, etc.) Because there is no way in hell there is going to be a whole "Ballast" forum or "Let The Right One In" forum, but goddamnit I wanna talk about it.

I know that we're just beginning this reboot and there aren't a ton of people here yet, but I just thought I'd throw this out there since I haven't seen it mentioned. As well as volunteer to moderate the proposed "Art/Drama" forum, if there ever is one.

(Would Kenobistein come back and mod the Family/Animation forum?)

-Mouse"

Patrick@CA
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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

Here's the dilemma that I find with your suggestion Mouse: CA 2.0 can actually have forums for each and every movie. It's been built that way. The reason why there aren't 130 movie forums to equal 130 film database pages is that I haven't created forums for each movie because I've been worried that they wouldn't get much use, at least right now. My initial concerns seem to be validated; check out a list of all movie forums and see how many have been used. There's 23 specific movie forums; so far 4 have had posts within them.

I think part of the reason that these forums aren't as well visited as the general forums and comments section is that they aren't easy to find unless you go looking for them. I have been thinking of having a forum button added to a movie database page go one can immediately leap to that forum assigned to that film. Also, I have been thinking about possibly adding the last 5 threads for that movie forum to be added to the bottom of each movie page. It already exists that if there has been a post in a movie forum, that thread will show up on the movie database page for that film -- look at the right-hand column for WATCHMEN under the boxes for "Recent Photos" and "Comments" (http://coronacomingattractions.com/movie/watchmen). (as a side note, Comments are different than posts in a forum. See, there's a lot of different ways to talk about a movie on the new CA.)

Now, while I have been thinking about this problem it's been at the back of my mind. I've been waiting to see what happens and what kind of trends get established first before making any radical moves rejigging the forums. Also, if I were to activate forums for every movie that has a page on CA, that list of specific movie forums is gonna grow huge in no time flat. I need to find a solution to this situation before it happens. IMDb takes care of the problem by listing the topics for their specific movie forums at the bottom of each film's page, which is why I was thinking of a similar approach to CA 2.0.

So, maybe the solution is to have generic forums for genres, like CA 1.0 had, for movies that don't have multiple threads going on about them. I'm not sure yet. When there are thousands of registered users posting on CA, it will be a problem. Right now it's not but I'm keeping all options open and maybe we'll test out a couple of different ideas before we find out which solution is the best for us (for right now.)

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The Swollen Goi...
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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

Are you planning to have a forum for us to post and discuss personal artistic projects (music, fan fiction, artwork, et cetera), or is that already moving too far away from what the new CA is all about?

With personal property, I guess, there are always some sticky ownership issues. Maybe it wouldn't be such a great idea. I don't really believe I own any of the mediocrity my mind produces, but that's me.

If I don't claim it, I'm not to blame for it.

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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

Can we have a forum where only Goiter is allowed to post in it?

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The Swollen Goi...
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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

Will I still be allowed to post in other forums?

This better not be like last time!

Mouse
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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

I think the reason not a lot of those forums are being used is because unless a film is such a big project that multiple scoops are coming out all the time (ie. Watchmen, Batman, etc) I don't think people are comfortable creating a general talk about the movie page if it already has it's own forum. It's kind of silly to have a whole forum for the purpose of one thread. For example, right now in the Lounge, there is a Slumdog Millionaire thread, where we are discussing the merits of the film, the hype it's been getting and everything else about the movie. We really don't need to have to visit a whole different forum to talk about that one film. This is especially true about the films I listed above, "Ballast" and "Let The Right One In". They really don't NEED whole forums to themselves. The thing I dislike about IMDb, is that it's impossible to find your way around. There are far too many movies in existence to have a forum for each one. Then you get kids making whole threads to talk about stupid shit that already has four threads anyway.

Needless to say, I think everyone fondly remembers the way CA 1.0 handled this problem and that's why I mentioned it. Again, this is just my opinion and just a suggestion. Take it or leave it, I'm sure you have big plans for CA 2.0 and I'm just so glad it's here.

mckracken
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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

Patrick, I did notice theres a problem with locating and finding recent posts or "new posts"

often, I use the "recent comments", but the problem is that there are only four listed, and every post I put up makes one "recent comment" dissapear.

heh... i just located the "most active" button... hmmmm....

Patrick@CA
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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

Some responses/answers:

Goiter asked:
Are you planning to have a forum for us to post and discuss personal artistic projects (music, fan fiction, artwork, et cetera), or is that already moving too far away from what the new CA is all about?

I don't mind people talking about personal stuff and I'll say it here and now that you own your own creative work, not me or this site or Corona Productions. I would imagine that the Lounge is the best place for that kind of talk right now. If it gets so that a lot of people are asking for a separate forum devoted for personal works, I can add it. No big deal.

Mouse, regarding the general genre forums:

It's not a bad idea at all. I can create them but the way the site is built right now, only the threads for a forum devoted to that single movie will also show up as "Recent Threads" on that film's database page. So for example, if I made a general sci-fi forum and STAR WARS VIII didn't have a specific forum made for it, those threads in the general sci-fi one pertaining to STAR WARS wouldn't show up on that film's DB page. Follow me?

Now that said, it may be something that I can commission the developers to build down the line. I also need the ability to move threads from one forum to another, if called for, and I don't have that ability right now. But it's all going into a list and work will be ongoing.

Mckracken:

Yup, there is a "Most Active Threads" box when you enter the forums. Maybe what I need to think about is including this somewhere else. I have been thinking of ways of expanding the social networking aspect of CA, and when I do that, I think having a place where you see the most active or most recent posting threads is a good idea.

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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

As far as the comments vs forums, I definitely prefer the forums. The comments are too hard to keep a conversation going because they're hard to find, they don't have dates on the movie page or number of new comments so you don't know if there's any new comments until you click on it (unless you happen to remember the number from the last time you looked), and it just spreads the conversation out even further by having comments attached to the movie and each scoop. I would prefer the comments section be replaced with a link to the movie's individual forum, or a general movie forum (that doesn't exist yet).

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Quasar
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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

I would also think about moving the Movie Forum icon down with the rest of the forum links. Where it is, nobody seems to notice it, despite it being big and red.

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Angeline
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Posted: 10 years 16 weeks ago

Quasar wrote:

As far as the comments vs forums, I definitely prefer the forums. The comments are too hard to keep a conversation going because they're hard to find, they don't have dates on the movie page or number of new comments so you don't know if there's any new comments until you click on it (unless you happen to remember the number from the last time you looked), and it just spreads the conversation out even further by having comments attached to the movie and each scoop. I would prefer the comments section be replaced with a link to the movie's individual forum, or a general movie forum (that doesn't exist yet).

Same here. I also think that'd have more chance of drawing people into the forums and thus encouraging them to visit the site as a whole more often... with the comments, you maybe comment on that one movie and that's it. If there's a forum link you'll visit that thread, realise it's part of a bigger forum, visit other threads, visit CA's pages for movies discussed in those threads... etc. etc.

Patrick@CA
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Posted: 10 years 15 weeks ago

I'm going to add genre forums in the next couple of days. After that, I'm considering adding clearer buttons on movie database pages to direct people to genre or specific movie forums. I'm kinda letting the whole comments/forums/where people post thing sit on the backburner for now because I want to see how it evolves. Personally, I would kind of dig it to evolve so that a detailed conversation about a film can take place in a forum and general comments about a film can be posted on the film's database page. Let's see how it evolves.

Also, I'm now looking for suggestions on ways to improve the forums, features that can be added, etc. If you have ideas, things you like from other forums and want them here, let me know and we can start a discussion about it.

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Posted: 10 years 15 weeks ago

I always got a kick out of Bill's smiley faces he would put up....So, possibly something silly like that.... :)

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Posted: 10 years 15 weeks ago

You can add smiley faces, of course, but you have to seek them out yourself and use an html tag to post them. I suppose you mean a CA specific one, though.

* * *

It may have already been suggested, but I would like it if the main forums page had some indication of which forums had new posts. It's easy enough to keep up with, currently, by looking at the overall post count from board to board (for example, I will see that the DVD board still has the same seven posts it had the day before, and I won't bother to visit it). Once there are even more boards, I suspect it will be harder to remember which board had which number of posts in it.

The Swollen Goi...
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Posted: 10 years 14 weeks ago

When I click on "Submit a Scoop," I am given a drop-down menu with an alphabetized list of movie titles. What should I click if I want to submit a scoop for a title not listed among these? I ask because there have already been two instances where I wanted to submit scoops for movies not on the list.

I was going to bring your attention to the Variety article naming Samuel Bayer as the director for the new Nightmare on Elm Street. I considered submitting it as a scoop for Night at the Museum 2.

Patrick@CA
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Posted: 10 years 14 weeks ago

Goiter: An excellent idea and a solution is needed. The reason why the scoop submission form exists the way it does now is because the developers wanted to assign credit to the people that submitted a scoop...thus if you submit a scoop for a movie listed on CA, and it's approved, you get credit for that scoop. Other users can check your ID and see what scoops you have submitted in the past.

I need a solution that allows for people to submit scoops for movies that don't exist here, and for TV/games/etc. I will get to work on that next week (this week is taken up with fixing the analytics).

In the meantime, there are 2 solutions that you can use:

1. submit your scoop and assign it to the first movie in the list. Some people have already done this and then in the body of their scoop they state that it's for a different movie. When I make the new CA page for that film I then swap out the old title and assign the scoop to that new title so that scooper gets credit.

2. Send your scoop (or attachments or photos) to scoop [at] coronacomingattractions.com. It's a straightforward email address.

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Posted: 10 years 13 weeks ago

how about a "Mark thread as read" button. I hate seeing new posts in a forum, but when I click on it, I realize it just threads I don't care about. Otherwise, I have to click on each thread to make it as read.

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Posted: 10 years 13 weeks ago

Omicron doesn't care about black threads.

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Posted: 10 years 13 weeks ago

I'd love a "new posts" button. I hate having to click back and forth all the time, searching forums for threads I haven't read yet.

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Posted: 9 years 49 weeks ago

I second the "new posts" idea. For some reason this site runs slow on my computer, and it's a hassle to get in and out of threads. It would make life oh-so-much easier!

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Since we're not able to edit a thread's initial post, a preview function would be nice.

Recently, I tested some code out in a preexisting post on an old thread, then quickly deleted and replaced the old text. It looked fine. Specifically, I was testing out the blockquote html tags to see if Corona would be adding breaks all on its own, or if I would need to add them myself. It did something I wasn't expecting it to when I tested it out, however. It treated the blockquotes the same way it treats all quotes: namely, it makes it all a lump of text, italicizes it, and puts the dark gray quotes graphic to the left of the text.

I decided I could work with that, so I created a new thread using the copied-and-pasted text. The odd thing is that the blockquotes weren't recognized at a;l (even as a generic quote), despite their having been recognized when I did my test run on the other thread.