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Of course what this means is more of this fucking splatter porn gets made, and the popular misconception that this is what makes a good horror movie continues.

Nobody ever assumed Jason was what makes a good horror movie. Actually Bill, there are subtle difference in "horror" "Gore/Splatter" and "Slasher". Jason is definitly a slasher flick... nothing more, nothing less. it doesnt need big blood to get the message across.
Peter Jackson's Dead alive is a Splatter Flick.
Quarantine, Mirrors, Uninvited, Unborn are horror flicks.

Now as for "porn", Jason isnt. Sure F13 has T&A but its "R" rated and they rarely deviate from the "insert tit shot here" formula.

Jason spawned a number of Imitators... wait... Halloween spawned a number of imitators and Jason was only one of them (the most famous one) and I'm sure that $42 mil will make hollywood churn out slasher flicks by the dozens...again, as they did in the early 80's.

Bout time too cause the 90's sucked nuts for horror flicks.

I haven't seen it yet, but the reviews seem to suggest that it's on par with the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake. That means that it ain't bad, but isn't worthy of high praise, either.
The Friday the 13th flicks were good for their inventive kills and the unstoppable evil that was Jason.

You know, Freddy vs. Jason was okay, but it could've been really awesome with a little tweaking of the story.

McKracken, if you start going semantics on me here, you'll be due for a smacking.

Splatter, slasher, whatever. GORE. GRATUITOUS GORE.

In periodic increments to satisfy some base urge to see pointless violence taken out on a cast of characters gathered to act merely as body count. HENCE the term "porn." ie. decadent excess.

Like any of the Star Wars prequels being referred to as "CGI Porn."

Don't make me come over there and bonk you.

Oh, and another thing.... this is "horror" at its most superficial and shallow. Therefore, it's no surprise it's a success.

I went to see this film and I will tell you this....This movie sucked donkey balls! It did not bring anything new to the slasher genre, instead it went with the same old fashioned formula of run, hide and then die.

The death scenes were basic as well, I guess there is only so many ways you can kill someone with machete.

The remake of Texas was far better and crazier, then this film. Do yourself a favor and wait for the movie to hit the rental shelves.

GD, I dont think their point was to bring anything new to the slasher genre.
The death scenes WERE basic... thats Jason BEFORE he figured out how to use a weedwacker and a roto-tiller (lame!) there could have been a little more blood and gross out gore but it was simple, straight forward and to the point.

Bill, we can argue semantics. Jason isnt "splatter", it never has been. Yes its a horror movie... sure, yes superficial and shallow, yes by your definition its a "slasher porn" (heh, I love your definition) and done straight to the classic formula, it will make money... not ANY slasher flick will made money mind you... I think only a true Jason flick can bring in $42mill in its opening weekend.

what was Freddy vs Jason's opening take? Was it anywhere close to $42mill?

GD, if i left laughing at Jason's antics (I mean BELLY-laughing) does that mean it was a bad film? I really enjoyed it... I am so completely jaded to this kind of shit, I was laughin my ass off at the rediculousness of the victims and the kills. i had a great time.

I'm sooo gonna smack you!

Mck, there is a thin line of laughing at something when it is ridiculous and laughing at something when it is so bad! This films is sooooo bad!

The more I think about the fact that I went and wasted money on it, the more pissed I get. I like the slasher genre, always have and always will, so when they announced they were remaking this film, I had no problem with it. In fact, I was hoping that the director/writer would bring something completely new to the genre like Craven did with Scream but instead, it was the same old film.

If I wanted to watch a basic, no brain Jason movie then I would have just stuck with 2-12.

I was expecting more from this guy who directed it, he remade Texas Chainsaw and I was not to happy about that until I wathced it and it was a good remake! Well, he just went back down to the bottom notch with me, my friend!

Hopefully the Hellraiser and Nightmare remakes will be better....right?....

This Friday the 13th made more in its first three days than any other straight Jason movie (not counting Freddy vs.) made in its entire run.

This doesn't hold true when adjusting for inflation, though. Adjusted for inflation, the original's $39.75 million would end up being somewhere around $104 million--at least according to the .gov website for inflation adjustment.

I should point out that the above approximation only applies if the overall total wasn't heavily affected by re-releases.

Gentlemen Death wrote:

Mck, there is a thin line of laughing at something when it is ridiculous and laughing at something when it is so bad! This films is sooooo bad! Hopefully the Hellraiser and Nightmare remakes will be better....right?....

better than what GD? Better than this installment of Friday the 13th or better than the original Hellraiser and Elm Street????

basically every Friday the 13th sequel has been 2 stars (or less) out of 4 stars, each of the Jason flicks (Jason goes to Hell and Jason X) were mediocre at best and even Freddy vs Jason only got 2 and a half stars by its kindest critic... Ie: the bar wasnt raised very high and my expectations werent either... based on previous installments, I knew what I would be getting wouldn't be much if anything but popcorn fodder and after Jason X (when they gave Jason the retrofit of nano-technology, I cringed... when they took him into space, I laughed out loud)

We've been getting and accepting "...sooooo bad" Friday the 13th flicks for damn near 30 years, dude... so what were YOU expecting? A masterpiece? LOL! Give ME a break, Please. This WAS the best that they could hope for... might as well enjoy it cause it aint gettin' any better dude. and considering Jason X came out in 2001... it could be a while before we get another Jason sequel, prequel, remake, re imagining, retelling, re butchering or whatever they'll call it in a few years...

my expectations were SO LOW for Friday the 13th I didnt give a shit anymore, I went in for Jason and just accepted what they gave me...that all I was hoping for was one notch slightly higher than Jason X this could just have easily been titled Friday the 13th Part 9 if Paramount had decided to totally write off Jason Goes to hell and Jason X

But they didnt... admittedly I think Paramount was more than a little stuck when it came to re-opening Jason's Pandora's box considering the ending of the last flick left him beheaded on a totally different planet. Not a good way to end your cash cow is it, and putting the creativity to continue this series firmly on the shoulders of ...the next guy? LOL!

as for it being bad... its every bit as bad as the previous installments (excluding Jason goes to Canada... err Manhattan) I've accepted it... I took the loss of my $10.50 in stride and jokingly hoped for the best and expected the very worst...it wasnt.. there is always a "worse" Jason movie.

Well that is the thing Mckracken, with all the other films doing so bad the writer and director of this new installment should have taken notes and figured out something new. That was my problem.

I was not expecting a masterpeice, no. Instead I was expecting a new look at the Jason character and his life. I always thought the films never did the 'Jason' character any credit. Yes, he is a cool character but his films are so horrible. That was my problem.

I DO believe they could have done better, in fact, way better! I can think of two horror movies that were remade, that people were bitching about, that did good. (Hills have eyes and Texas Chainsaw)

You can do better with this character and in fact, do better with a bland story. Even though I did not like the film I am hoping someone else comes along and does another one.....and does it right this time!

The best horror movie*slash*character ever is Freddie Krueger. Even his name is scary. He haunts your dreams, man. Can't escape if you're dreaming. And the flick had a bad man as director. Johnny Depp tricked his mom on the phone with a freaking cassette tape. Freddie could be a sweet remake. Put it in the right hands and it could beat Titanic's all-time record!

um... wait...Matrix...
Freddie PRINZE Jr.
Freddie Mercury

F-R-E-D-D-Y KRUEGER

get it right, ok?

Regarding Freddy, I used to love his movies back in high school, I had the glove, the hat, the rubber mask and the sweater...I had the posters and I even have the actual RECORD of the Elm St. 2 Soundtrack (try finding THAT one on eBay)

I think my patience with Freddy began to fade a bit after nightmare on elm street Part 5: The Dream child... does anyone remember that one? oh, it was as GD likes to say, epically "sooooo Bad" horrible. Freddy's Dead the Final nightmare faired better but come on, the last what 15 minutes were in 3D and the CHARACTERS themselves instructed the audience when to put on the 3d glasses? (I actually saw that one at a drive in theaters in Roswell, New Mexico!!)... Dream Baby spelled the end for Mr. Krueger...

now, out of both series, I actually only bought the DVD for Freddy vs Jason although I probably taped some of the F13 sequels off Pay-per-view back in the early 90's... I dont remember.

i dont find Freddy scary anymore, i dont like his wise-cracking one liners or his stupid jokes... good god he's more into "Self-parody" now..but whats really scary is the so-called "fans" that want to pit him against... well... everybody from Chucky to Michael Myers to Ash from Army of Darkness ...come on..

before you pit him against another horror icon, FIX the character, eliminate the one-liners and the stupid antics inside the dream realm... cant Freddy dream up anything better than a God damn pinball machine scenario to break Jason? Gimme a break. That scene was lame, as were most of Freddy's antics = the roach Coach from Part 4, the doctor from Part 5, eating frenzy.. good lord that was Tom Arnold and Rosanne Barr that cameoed in Dream Child??? Euuugh.

New Nightmare restored the character to his former glory... unfortunatly it didnt serve as a template for remodling the character for freddy vs Jason...sigh.. he was still acting like a clown and nothing like a sadistic child molester killer that his origins seem to suggest.

do I think a remake could improve the character? yes definitly... actually New Nigtmare WAS a re-imagining and a damn good one.

Do I think that they culd potentially come out with another legit sequel and have it be utterly fantastic like Dream Warriors? you bet... whatever happened to Chuck Russell's career?

and yes I think Wes Craven should serve as writer and producer and have a little control over his own creation... else somebody will step in and screw it up.

I agree with you on this one, Mckracken. The Nightmare series seemed to leave the creepy factor after 3 and even 3 was almost pushing it.

I never got scared of Krueger but found that the normal slasher flick was expanded into a well thought out story of him, attacking people in their dreams and not slowly walking around in the real world.

As much as I really enjoy the first three, I am down for a remake depending on how it goes...Just as long as the people who did this new Friday film will be no where near it!

Yo, Mck....CLOVERFIELD.....

so GD do you think that not seeing either of the remakes hills have Eyes and Texas Chainsaw Massacre has affected my liking Friday the 13th?

you did know that I still havent seen the original Hills have Eyes or Last House on the Left..the original Last House is playing On Fearnet... i'll have to check it out.

yo, GD...SUNSHINE....

I am just saying that there are far better remakes of horror classics then this Friday movie.

The original Last House on the Left was not that good and it was all in your face rape and violence. As for the remake...not sure if I will see it or not.

Sunshine kicked ass and Mck....YETIS!!!

You'd be surprised how little the Friday the 13th movies have made theatrically. Have a look.

I think the real market for them has been video. Also, they're cheap as fuck to make (and it shows). It will more than likely have tripled its production budget by the end of this weekend--which is generally what a movie needs (this is considered to be general wisdom, though I'd like to see this in print and coming from a reputable source) to start turning a profit, especially with all the Hollywood accounting that goes on.

Gentlemen Death wrote:

I am just saying that there are far better remakes of horror classics then this Friday movie.

i heard it raked in $7 mill its second weekend, thats quite a drop-off

It's one of the biggest second weekend drops in history, actually.

i saw that... #53... ouch... it made what $7 million in weekend #2?