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Heroes: Fugitives

Posted by The Swollen Goi... on Tuesday, January 27, 2009

It's almost here. Anyone still watching?

Where do you see them going with the "Fugitives" storyline? What do you want to see? What do you not want so see? Do you think Fuller can help save the show? (He used to write on Pushing Daisies, you know. But now he can't. He can't because Pushing Daisies is DEEAAAADD!)

HaywoodJablomy
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Posted: 5 years 30 weeks ago

I'm giving them through the end of this season. If the Fugitives volume doesn't knock my socks off, I'm out.

The first season was probably the best season of sci-fi television since season 3 or 4 (take your pick) of TNG. They did almost nothing wrong and we learned very quickly that no one was safe.

Season 2 was hampered by the strike and lacked a coherently presented over-arching theme but it still flowed logically and they let the various subplots brew with great care over 4-6 episodes each at least.

Season 3 has been nothing short of uninspired. A standard clusterfuck season for a standard show. It uses new characters as plot devices rather than letting them develop. It doesn't know how to properly develop story arcs or let them play out long enough. It takes its main characters to places that defy their being. It has become standard TV. Well, Heroes is NOT standard. Or at least it wasn't.

The Swollen Goi...
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Posted: 5 years 30 weeks ago

Try not to give up on it based on tomorrow's episode. It was written by Kring. That's usually a bad thing.

Mark Verheiden is credited as the writer for the second story in the "Fugitives" arc. That may mean something to you BSG fans. I don't know the good BSG episodes from the bad, so I don't know whether or not the nine he wrote (among them: "The Oath," "The Road Less Traveled," "Crossroads: Part 2," "A Day in the Life," "Black Market," "The Final Cut," and "The Eye of Jupiter") are liked by the fans.

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Posted: 5 years 29 weeks ago

Actually, it wasn't the worst Kring episde. It's was fast paced and had some nice idea's. The dialogue was bad, off course, Kring couldn't write a decent line if his life depended on it (did you see what I did, MR. Kring? I just used a cliche scentence, without irony, as if nobody used it ever before. Kinda how you write).

The main problem is, after the last season is: I just don't care about the characters anymore ...

'All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.'
Quasar
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Posted: 5 years 29 weeks ago

I enjoyed the commercials they played during the Super Bowl with the characters singing. Didn't make me want to start watching the show again, however.

Faster and faster, a nightmare we ride. Who'll take the reins when the miracle dies? Faster and faster till everything dies. Killing is our way of keeping alive. - Virgin Steele, Blood and Gasoline
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Posted: 5 years 29 weeks ago

I watched four or five episodes of this season and got disgusted. Until a week or so ago, the remainder were sitting on my DVR. Everytime I'd start watching the next episode, I'd get bored and decide to watch something interesting. Thus, I eventually deleted Heroes from my DVR, and I don't miss it.
I like Fuller, so I will probably give next week's episode a shot as it's supposed to essentially be a reboot., but god, Villians was stupid.

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HaywoodJablomy
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Posted: 5 years 29 weeks ago

The Swollen Goi... wrote:

Try not to give up on it based on tomorrow's episode. It was written by Kring. That's usually a bad thing. Mark Verheiden is credited as the writer for the second story in the "Fugitives" arc. That may mean something to you BSG fans. I don't know the good BSG episodes from the bad, so I don't know whether or not the nine he wrote (among them: "The Oath," "The Road Less Traveled," "Crossroads: Part 2," "A Day in the Life," "Black Market," "The Final Cut," and "The Eye of Jupiter") are liked by the fans.

I'm not giving up on it based on the first episode of this volume. I'm actually going to see it through to the end of the season. I'll judge it in aggregate. If it doesn't improve over the Villains volume, I'm done.

Quasar
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Posted: 5 years 25 weeks ago

I haven't watched any episodes of Heroes since season 2, but this sounds about right.

Faster and faster, a nightmare we ride. Who'll take the reins when the miracle dies? Faster and faster till everything dies. Killing is our way of keeping alive. - Virgin Steele, Blood and Gasoline
Morpheus
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Posted: 5 years 25 weeks ago

LOL! That's a great comic!

Last weeks episode was actually quite good, I liked the flashback structure and Bennet always saves the series. Except these two things:

- Everybody is being watched (even Nathan), except Bennet? He can talk to Nathan mother without anybody noticing? Or is it like this:

'Seen anything unusual, soldier?'
'No sir, except Bennet sitting on a bench next to the senators mom, but they never look at each other, so I guess it's just a coincidence for them to sit on the same bench.'
'That's okay, then'

- Who thought having Parkman draw an explosion which he has to prevent (even though he seems to be the one that is casing it) was a good idea? Didn't they do this, like, every season!

'All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.'
neglet
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Posted: 5 years 25 weeks ago

I like what they're doing with Claire's character. The Petrelli arc is driving me crazy, though, with all the character left turns.

Still, awesome eye candy for us ladies.

MindWalker
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Posted: 5 years 25 weeks ago

"We're the new characters. We'll confuse things for a few weeks than die!"

LMFAO!!!!

They just went 'The Matrix' in the last episode. "Follow the white rabbit. Knock, knock, Neo."

MindWalker
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Posted: 5 years 25 weeks ago

Will they move on with it or what?

I guess we have 4 to 6 episodes left this season and there's more loose ends in this one than a beat up wig.

Is Peter stuck with 'one power at a time' for good? He obvioulsy is more worried about staying out of jail, but shouldn't he look for an answer on this one?

Who's "playing Trinity" with them? I actually like this one.. it keeps us on our toes and the mistery going. At least for a while.

Is Sylar in walkabout for good? I'm fed up with that dipshit.

The Swollen Goi...
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Posted: 5 years 22 weeks ago

I liked Fuller's episode.

mckracken
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Posted: 5 years 22 weeks ago

"we're still in the hospital arent we" -speedster
Matt parkman - "oh, you figured it out, what tipped you off?"
"well we're kinda in paris and you're able to fly now... when did that happen"
"and you're able to run on water now"

whats the deal with Matt? is Speedster (his GF) dead now? i kinda liked her character but did she recover from the gunshot or did she die?

The Swollen Goi...
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Posted: 5 years 22 weeks ago

You want a noncommittal answer? I have one. Here:

She's as dead as comic book characters get.

mckracken
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Posted: 5 years 22 weeks ago

well maybe yes i want a non-committal answer... no, wait no... maybe? LOL

ok so she'll save everybody's ass in the final episode with no explanation at all of where she's been for all those episodes when everybody thought she was dead, right?

mckracken
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Posted: 5 years 22 weeks ago

i think they should bring back William Katt the guy who played the first Dr who.

MindWalker
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Posted: 5 years 22 weeks ago

It was a good episode but they are still moving it as slow as it can get. Will Hiro get his powers back for good and not frakking lose them again or what?

And get Peter out of that stupid blood sucking leech mode, for frak's sake.

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Posted: 5 years 22 weeks ago

mckracken wrote:

i think they should bring back William Katt the guy who played the first Dr who.

William Hartnell is dead, isn't he ???? What was he in Heroes ? Did I miss a cameo ?

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mckracken
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Posted: 5 years 21 weeks ago

Katt was frozen and crunched and unthawed and dripped into the sewers. The first Doctor Who was the invisible Man... his character was a cameo, i dont know how they ended his story.

MindWalker
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Posted: 5 years 21 weeks ago

They didn't, he just went on the run after Noah tracked him down.

mckracken
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Posted: 5 years 21 weeks ago

WTF now Sylar is also a shapeshifter? like anybody (of the Heros) will beleive silar could be put down that easily.

last nights episode really saved a ton of money NOT casting anyone as "the shapeshifter" he just assumed the faces of other heros like silar and the fat guy and later the guy who is running the operation now. (what's his name?)

MindWalker
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Posted: 5 years 21 weeks ago

One thing that striked me is that in a flash forward scene (Five Years Gone), Sylar could change (from Pres. Petrelli to himself) without any pain at all, but in the last episode it looked quite painful.. WTF!?!?

Strider
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Posted: 5 years 21 weeks ago

He needs more practice?

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mckracken
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Posted: 5 years 21 weeks ago

agreed... the shapeshifter he killed didnt have any problems with it. I suspect it will get easier and easier for him to shape shift into other people.

do the clothes shapeshift along with the person, or does the person stay in the same clothes from person to person?

MindWalker
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Posted: 5 years 19 weeks ago

Latest episode: 1961

I thought they were through with mindless fillers, after the first half Season 2 fiasco, but I was wrong. Save your time, I'll break it down...

Angela had a sister, Alice (supposedly dead), who could control the weather. They were round up to this desert facility along with Linderman, Bishop and Deveaux, Dr. Suresh was in charge. A few months later they decided to escape but Alice was left behind "for her own safety". They met in a cafe and decide to form the company to protect their secret and other people with abilities. Peter has a hard time forgiving Nathan, but they settle it in time to go help Angela, at this time kidnaped by Alice who used a sandstorm as cover. Angela talks her down, for a minute, but then screws it up and Alice gets more upset just as Mohinder and Peter storm in to save ol' momma. Alice vanishes and the family gathers in the same cafe to go under the radar and cover their behinds.

It felt like BSG's motto: "All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again."